Wild that the crowdfunding for these settlements haven’t been taken down. It would be interesting to see someone do a deep dive into the payment processing behind Givechak.
Circling back here, did a little reading - the merchants, payment processing, banks and merchant cc issuers are largely all Israeli, however global payment networks like Visa and Mastercard still facilitate transactions and have been urged to discontinue their ties with such merchants/banking institutions operating in the West Bank. They haven’t done so. I’m not sure if they did, if that would create issues for Palestinians living there. I could definitely be wrong here, I work in *mumbles* finance but this isn’t my background.
Yeah, that broke me when I first heard of it. those are basically child soldiers who are pre-traumatized and are being groomed into becoming terrorists.
I don't know why this should be so surprising to me, but I'm so genuinely disturbed by this. I don't see how the government can have any veil of innocence if they're intentionally placing children in violent and dangerous conditions. All this talk about Hamas using children as human shields, but wtf is this??
Lapid's words on the biblical borders of Israel raises a question:
If they are going back to the biblical boundaries of Israel, then surely they should also know that the biblical account includes significant non-Hebrew populations living within the boundaries of ancient Israel and, furthermore, that those non-Hebrews were placed under divine protection. For example, the five cities of the Canaanite Gibeonites, who tricked the Hebrew general Joshua into a covenant and, after King Saul tried to destroy the Gibeonites, Israel was punished with three years of famine until Saul's sons were killed in retribution. The biblical record mentions the Gibeonites were still present as a distinct identity after the return from Babylon. There is also the nomadic Rechabites to whom the prophet Jeremiah spoke, telling them that, for their obedience to their ancestor's command not to drink wine, their line of descent would never be broken - if they believe the biblical account of the borders to be true, then they should also believe that the Rechabites are still present, and still under divine protection.
Using Bronze Age texts to justify modern-day political policies of any kind is just insane, none of those texts were written anywhere near the time the events were purported to take place! The people in those stories would have been illiterate shepherds, it's like, why don't just use Gilgamesh and the Iliad to solve land disputes today? It's so absurd, I really can't take it 😫
No, I take your point. I'm just afraid of how many times the god of the Bible commanded the Israelites to wipe out entire people groups, even the animals, but to keep the virgin girls to distribute as plunder among them.
The irony was, that those Gibeonites I mentioned were among those people groups slated for extermination, but once Israel made a covenant made with them, it could not ever be broken. Israel's King Saul tried to break it, and his sons were executed as a result - the translated text at that point refers to Saul as "that bloody man". There is a repeated theme in the biblical account that promise-breakers are doomed to punishment, and so if the account were actually taken seriously by those who talk about restoring the "biblical borders" they should be seeing the need to honour the Oslo Accords.
Sound familiar? Tulsa Massacre, Rosewood Massacre, Black Wallstreet Massacre, Seneca Village Massacre,The 1964 Sharpeville Massacre, 1985 MOVE bombing! There's a reason why Palestinians and Black people world wide understand what is happening .
Wild that the crowdfunding for these settlements haven’t been taken down. It would be interesting to see someone do a deep dive into the payment processing behind Givechak.
Circling back here, did a little reading - the merchants, payment processing, banks and merchant cc issuers are largely all Israeli, however global payment networks like Visa and Mastercard still facilitate transactions and have been urged to discontinue their ties with such merchants/banking institutions operating in the West Bank. They haven’t done so. I’m not sure if they did, if that would create issues for Palestinians living there. I could definitely be wrong here, I work in *mumbles* finance but this isn’t my background.
Wait, so they take children who are in the foster system and place them in settler outposts?! Wtf??
Yeah, that broke me when I first heard of it. those are basically child soldiers who are pre-traumatized and are being groomed into becoming terrorists.
I don't know why this should be so surprising to me, but I'm so genuinely disturbed by this. I don't see how the government can have any veil of innocence if they're intentionally placing children in violent and dangerous conditions. All this talk about Hamas using children as human shields, but wtf is this??
Imagine your own father calling your death a “sacrifice.” Truly sick and medieval.
These settlers are terrorists.
Lapid's words on the biblical borders of Israel raises a question:
If they are going back to the biblical boundaries of Israel, then surely they should also know that the biblical account includes significant non-Hebrew populations living within the boundaries of ancient Israel and, furthermore, that those non-Hebrews were placed under divine protection. For example, the five cities of the Canaanite Gibeonites, who tricked the Hebrew general Joshua into a covenant and, after King Saul tried to destroy the Gibeonites, Israel was punished with three years of famine until Saul's sons were killed in retribution. The biblical record mentions the Gibeonites were still present as a distinct identity after the return from Babylon. There is also the nomadic Rechabites to whom the prophet Jeremiah spoke, telling them that, for their obedience to their ancestor's command not to drink wine, their line of descent would never be broken - if they believe the biblical account of the borders to be true, then they should also believe that the Rechabites are still present, and still under divine protection.
Using Bronze Age texts to justify modern-day political policies of any kind is just insane, none of those texts were written anywhere near the time the events were purported to take place! The people in those stories would have been illiterate shepherds, it's like, why don't just use Gilgamesh and the Iliad to solve land disputes today? It's so absurd, I really can't take it 😫
The point is, that the Bronze Age text is not the justification for an exclusive ethno-state that they think it is.
No, I take your point. I'm just afraid of how many times the god of the Bible commanded the Israelites to wipe out entire people groups, even the animals, but to keep the virgin girls to distribute as plunder among them.
The irony was, that those Gibeonites I mentioned were among those people groups slated for extermination, but once Israel made a covenant made with them, it could not ever be broken. Israel's King Saul tried to break it, and his sons were executed as a result - the translated text at that point refers to Saul as "that bloody man". There is a repeated theme in the biblical account that promise-breakers are doomed to punishment, and so if the account were actually taken seriously by those who talk about restoring the "biblical borders" they should be seeing the need to honour the Oslo Accords.
Bless you Jasper and friends, with you all in spirit...sending love and courage, be safe....stay safe.
Jasper,
Thank you for your recent episode on the Current Affairs podcast
I'm part of a peace-open community of jews and palestinians run by Adar Weinreb (he's a israeli peace activist of sorts)
I'd like to either interview you, or put you in touch with Adar, or possibly others.
Is there a way I can contact you directly?
Sound familiar? Tulsa Massacre, Rosewood Massacre, Black Wallstreet Massacre, Seneca Village Massacre,The 1964 Sharpeville Massacre, 1985 MOVE bombing! There's a reason why Palestinians and Black people world wide understand what is happening .
“collapse the authority of evil and terror called the Palestinian Authority.” that sentence is so far removed from any reality.